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David Djirikian - Jun 29, 2004 4:33 am (#91650 Total: 107883)  

" . . . it may require a change which hasn't come before"  

From the GD Monthly Flash:

QUESTION and ANSWER DEPARTMENT

Question: In the course of your daily listening, do you have any systematic preservation practices to ensure the Grateful Dead's tape collection stays safe?

Answer: Whenever we listen to shows in the vault from the master tapes, we make back-ups during playback of that master. For instance, if we are pointed to a particular show from 1989 that exists only on DAT, we make a DAT, CD and often a high-resolution dub on another digital format, a DA-88, as preservation copies. From that moment on, anytime we want to hear that show, we play back the CD or back-up DAT, and only use the mster if we should get to the point of turning that specific 1989 show into a Dick's Pick. The less we play the master, the better. Now, in the case of reel-to-reel tapes from the need-baking era, 1975-1979 mostly, we are extra-diligent in making back-ups, as a tape can only be bakes 4 or 5 times before baking loses its reconstituting powers. Baking tapes, as you might remember, is what we need to do to make reel-to-reel tapes from that era playable. They are baked for 12 hours at 130 degrees Farenheit. So, with tapes we need to bake, one playback is about all we do, making several back-up protection copies in the process to listen to during analysis.

rk - if you still want in on the Winwood Bonnaroo I need an e-mail.

Thanks!

da(rk)*star - Jun 29, 2004 4:33 am (#91651 Total: 107883)  

"All I got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth!" Bono  

Sending now, sorry.

hip - Jun 29, 2004 4:55 am (#91652 Total: 107883)  

 

The JA/GD 05-07-69 Audio Vine reached the caboose today.

Thank-you drbenway and all other involed. I hope to get into it a bit later.

I would re-vine for 5 if there is interest. Please count off and E you vitals.

1. hip
2.
3.
4.
5.

Thanks!

Miami Jeff - Jun 29, 2004 5:01 am (#91653 Total: 107883)  

 

JA/GD 05-07-69 Audio Vine

1. hip
2. Miami Jeff
3.
4.
5.

Thanks!

jimmy jam - Jun 29, 2004 5:32 am (#91654 Total: 107883)  

 

Been waiting for this!

JA/GD 05-07-69 Audio Vine

1. hip
2. Miami Jeff
3. jimmy jam
4.
5.

Thanks!

kacide - Jun 29, 2004 5:55 am (#91655 Total: 107883)  

 

JA/GD 05-07-69 Audio Vine

1. hip
2. Miami Jeff
3. jimmy jam
4. kacide
5.

Thanks!

jimmy jam - Jun 29, 2004 5:57 am (#91656 Total: 107883)  

 

vine update:

((Gina))'s Warren 6-8&9-04 and the mini Dead @ Roo re-vine arrived yesterday and will be out in today' mail.

Mr. B - Jun 29, 2004 6:36 am (#91657 Total: 107883)  

 

JA/GD 5/7/69 vine

1. hip
2. Miami Jeff
3. jimmy jam
4. kacide
5. Mr. B

Thanks - EOTW.

cm_hayden - Jun 29, 2004 7:17 am (#91658 Total: 107883)  

They may forget what you said. but they'll never forget how you made them feel.  

Vine burns

Is it just me or has anyone else been receiving a lot of bad burns ( distortion, white noise, etc.) from vine seeds? I know Fugis are becoming hard to find but a lot of seeds are also on off brand discs. It's almost like no one is checking discs before shipping them out to the next in line or substituting discs.

Charles Glover - Jun 29, 2004 7:37 am (#91659 Total: 107883)  

"I myself favor a goose for Christmas dinner." Sherlock Holmes  

I haven't had that problem. What burning software are you using?

flipp - Jun 29, 2004 7:57 am (#91660 Total: 107883)  

It's not the internet you're addicted to, it's the people you meet online.  

While I haven't noticed distortion or white noise (guess I ought to listen to some of the burns) I have noticed a lot of seeds on off-brand discs that I have a very difficult time getting a clean extraction from.

Howlin' Bob - Jun 29, 2004 8:09 am (#91661 Total: 107883)  

 

I don't believe it's correct to blame "distortion" on defective discs...that would be a problem with the original tape or with the transfer. "white noise" could be a disc defect or a digital mastering defect, but could also be static from the original recording caused by electronic defects in the original signal chain. disc-related defects that i've seen have been limited to pops (usually either tiny dropouts or spikes/discontinuities caused by corruptions of the waveform), skips, and sonic artifacts at/near track boundaries.

MAW - Jun 29, 2004 8:21 am (#91662 Total: 107883)  

Leave me where I am, I'm only sleeping  

the group has gotten so big, that I'm not sure everyone uses eac to extract. I get the feeling theres alot of on the fly copying, or disc to disc copying going on

Gina - Jun 29, 2004 8:30 am (#91663 Total: 107883)  

(((((( Haiti ))))))  

If that is in fact true, I would hope disc to disc copying only affects the discs that are copied NOT the seeds

David Djirikian - Jun 29, 2004 8:46 am (#91664 Total: 107883)  

" . . . it may require a change which hasn't come before"  

the group has gotten so big, that I'm not sure everyone uses eac to extract. I get the feeling theres alot of on the fly copying, or disc to disc copying going on

Some people only have stand alones, or if you're like me your comp. crapped out and now you can only run vines. No biggie, I've got enough to listen to.



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